Friday, November 18, 2011

God said "I will destroy man whom I have created; both man and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls."?

Genesis (chapter 6) says that God said he would do that, but then changed his mind.





Can Genesis be right, saying that God changed his mind twice?


(In the beginning, as he created all living things "God saw that it was good" at each stage of creation. Here Genesis says God says he will destroy all living things, including all birds; then changes his mind again and does not destroy them.)





Elsewhere in the Bible it says that God never changes. The statement that God is unchanging is pervasive throughout the Bible.





My question is this: Could it be that Genesis is mistaken about God changing his mind here?





I prefer to believe that God is unchanging; moreover, that he knows what he is doing. Not a God that creates life and later gets disgusted and intends to destroy it. (Also, whatever did the creeping things and birds do wrong? Why destroy them too?)





Would you people care to vote on this issue? Scholars especially. Thank you kindly.

God said "I will destroy man whom I have created; both man and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls."?
no it isjust a 2000yrs old fairy tale with its owen mad look on the world it is not real history
Reply:In short,the answer to your question is, no. The scirpture is correct sir. What you prefer is irrelevant.





God didn't change his mind, because he didn't erase man but continued with his original plan of man. That is a continuation. He was grieved by mens actions. So there is surface change but not ultimate change, the plan will continue.








But why don't you tell us from what position you are arguing so that we can point out your weaknesses.Tell us what you believe and think and then we will examine your ideas and where they come from. Instead of playing the scholar or philosopher.





Becasue I am sure you have nothing new to say, that hasn't been entertained before amongst theologians and therefore subjected to criticism and weaknesses exposed.


I would guess that you might be a muslim, very deferential to greek philosophical concepts, or you might be a general unbeliever.





My position is that we must accept and deal with the concepts presented to us in scripture and not run to or readily accept greek or just general philosophical concepts of God. It is my opinion that we cannot judge God that way or even scripture, because most philosophical concepts about God , think in this way: "What is most worthy of God, or what is not worthy of God"





To me such guiding principles do not lead to truth but to a predetermined outcome based upon mens ideas of what should be, trying to protect the image of God in their own minds and the minds of tothers, and they therefore feel pious and justified in doing so, since there motives are pure in their own eyes.
Reply:Were we created with a thought ,a breath, or a fart?


Destruction is partly based on how we prepare for our next generation of human life.
Reply:What are my choices to vote on? The rest of the context you left out or the knee jerk reaction to your half truth observations?
Reply:Gods' character, morals and values NEVER CHANGE!





He just ACTS or REACTS to the ever-changing hearts of men!





In THE BEGINNING all things WERE good!





God is a just God, and has GOOD reason for all of His actions!
Reply:the bible is a collection of works developed over numerous centuries. ranging from pure creation mythos to hard-headed census taking. all that seems important is that god loves us and wants us to be happy. the problem is that our flaws get in the way.
Reply:as an entity He doesnt change as far as love mercy etc...but He can change His mind like we can too...It Was good till Lucipher entered the garden..
Reply:The bible was written by various MEN over a number of years.


Men, as we all know, like women, are not perfect.


So you cannot expect the bible to be 100% perfect and have NO mistakes.


Even the translations over the years have been changed, based on desires of kings and churches.


You use the bible as a guidebook, not as a mapbook, telling you EVERYTHING you are to do with your life.





So stop looking for mistakes. And live, enjoy life.
Reply:My Bible which is a translation of the Hebrew text says that God began to regret that he had made man on the earth and that he felt hurt at his heart.


This feeling of regret on Jehovah God’s part works both ways, as the Bible shows. If his creatures fail in his purpose for them, he feels regrets and they incur his wrath. But if Jehovah purposes punishment to some of his creatures because of their wrongful course, and they truly feel sorry, repent for their sins and have not reached the point of no return, then Jehovah will have a change of mental attitude toward them and show them mercy; he will feel regrets. So instead of bringing affliction or further affliction upon them he will bring them relief.
Reply:Thanks for the question my friend. I just reread Genesis 6. The thoughts that come to mind are; God is unchanging in that He will turn away and eventually destroy all that is evil. Upon Noah's gaining favor with the Father, Merciful God that He is, He has no desire destroy that which is good. (Even if that which is good was bad before and repented!)To me it's more like Noah saved humanity, not that God changed His mind.


Praise be to God!
Reply:God did say all that but and he did later in the flood. He only kept 2 of every clean thing in the world. and he promised to never again do that. he did this because it says that our God is a jelous God and when the men worshiped other things (IDOLS)that were animals ( that is why God got rid of animals). God was outraged and wiped all evil off the earth. because of Adam and Eve evil can not be completely wiped off untill the end.


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